tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647291021082797487.post1672991743669904698..comments2023-06-25T06:58:15.188-04:00Comments on Capitol Baseball: Soriano, Why Not?Joe Druganhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01445225986824666955noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647291021082797487.post-60434700689837939222011-01-11T21:47:53.759-05:002011-01-11T21:47:53.759-05:00Anonymous,
I meant contender not as in "cont...Anonymous,<br /><br />I meant contender not as in "contender to sign" but as "contender to win (read: pay lots of money)". In that sense there are only a few listed, I wasn't going to spend an entire article going through each teams closers so I chose a select few. <br /><br />Thanks for reading and commenting!Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02170441309745095641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647291021082797487.post-78813104451867939212011-01-11T15:35:36.290-05:002011-01-11T15:35:36.290-05:00You go through six options "out there", ...You go through six options "out there", and after dismissing them, conclude that that "leaves the Nationals." I think the list of options seems to me to be possibly five times as long as you seem to suggest. How does it follow (at least from Soriano's perspective), that the Nats are his logical choice after your six contenders are ruled out?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647291021082797487.post-71516557451079544802011-01-11T14:42:51.479-05:002011-01-11T14:42:51.479-05:00we couldnt get a front of the line starter...take ...we couldnt get a front of the line starter...take that money and solidify the back end of the bullpen. keep or trade he has way more value that a 2-4 mil FA dumpster diving 4th or 5th starter. and in the end could provide value beyond himself and his contract (i.e. prospects coming back in a trade)Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02664379866064076573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647291021082797487.post-40534503028966129882011-01-11T14:05:34.445-05:002011-01-11T14:05:34.445-05:00I agree with Dave's sentiments here. A 3rd ro...I agree with Dave's sentiments here. A 3rd round pick is extremely valuable in a baseball draft. It doesn't equate well to the 3rd round of the NFL draft, for instance, where 3rd round and higher picks get traded willy nilly. (At least with the Redskins... sigh.)<br /><br />But to echo Mac's comments, an investment in an extremely high quality closer to help secure a few more wins for the Nats could create future success and change the way the team builds pitching in the coming years. I think a push for Soriano wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.Joe Druganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01445225986824666955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647291021082797487.post-22768994403204340882011-01-11T13:48:32.277-05:002011-01-11T13:48:32.277-05:00John C: I can't see the Nats making a multi-ye...John C: I can't see the Nats making a multi-year deal with someone and flipping them at this deadline. knowing how much the baseball ops has to talk ownership into anything, it would be a real hard sell to get them to commit, then turn around and jettison at the trade deadline for younger players/picks. <br /><br />in theory, it could work lke it did with Capps, but in practice it would be atough thing to do.Dave Nicholshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05310191107811609232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647291021082797487.post-58940354134897308942011-01-11T12:24:41.068-05:002011-01-11T12:24:41.068-05:00I've been screeching for weeks on the blogs th...I've been screeching for weeks on the blogs that the Nats should get Soriano. And I wouldn't flip him in July. We need a great closer next year and he could be it, plus he gives us all kinds of flexibility. With the money they haven't spent, this is a must do, and it would again send a signal that the Nats are serious.JamesFannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647291021082797487.post-33494513435804659452011-01-11T11:15:16.791-05:002011-01-11T11:15:16.791-05:00I hear you, Dave, but it's not for three years...I hear you, Dave, but it's not for three years of a non-competitive team. You can look at it as a partial-season deal - flip him in July for compensation that's better than a 3rd round pick. If a big-market team closer goes down possibly a LOT more (just imagine if Rivera goes down in NY, for example). And even if the Nats keep him, they may be contending by 2012, and should be contending by 2013John C.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647291021082797487.post-29547842489323942802011-01-11T11:08:01.811-05:002011-01-11T11:08:01.811-05:00Because he won't cost $7-8 million, it'll ...Because he won't cost $7-8 million, it'll be more like $10 million per. and count me in the group that values the 3rd round pick higher than 3 years for a closer on a non-competitive team.<br /><br />it's an interesting idea, but IMO, pass.Dave Nicholshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05310191107811609232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647291021082797487.post-68867719975867538242011-01-11T10:08:42.667-05:002011-01-11T10:08:42.667-05:00Great analysis and much appreciated to read this a...Great analysis and much appreciated to read this along with courtRFK428's comments. That potential 36 times a season vs. the combo of the Yankees/Red Sox says a lot about this guy.<br /><br />For a 3rd round pick, why not if you can get him without any trade restrictions and at $7 million per year. Think about how much he is worth at July 31st if the Nats aren't in contention. He is in the Top 5 of closers and has Post Season experience.Steve M.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647291021082797487.post-48457118678309772592011-01-11T09:47:34.548-05:002011-01-11T09:47:34.548-05:00Indeed, why not? Last year at this time, we got a...Indeed, why not? Last year at this time, we got an All Star closer for half a season, who turned into a possible All Star catcher for years to come.<br /><br />P.S. I thought you were talking about Alfonso Soriano at first. I was preparing remarks questioning Mike Rizzo's sanity.<br /><br />P.P.S. Kudos on the regular posting these days. It's been easing my offseason hunger for baseball. In the words of Rogers Horsnby, "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."Nicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5647291021082797487.post-50114233426055270882011-01-11T08:13:48.954-05:002011-01-11T08:13:48.954-05:00Another reason to sign Soriano is to keep the Whit...Another reason to sign Soriano is to keep the White Sox from signing him, thus protecting the draft pick we get for losing Dunn. If Soriano goes to the Sox, then their 1st round pick goes to Tampa instead of the Nats - we get their 2nd round pick instead.court, rfk428noreply@blogger.com